This book review says his first divorce from Natalie was brought about when she walked in on him and another guy.
And there's that persistent bruit that the same thing happened on The Splendor that cimmerian dark with Christopher Walken, which prompted the drunken Natalie to hardheaded to get off the boat- with tragic results.
So... did R.J. like hole and pole? He never really pinged to easy to get to, though he was handsome enough to get anyone.
| by Anonymous | reply 185 | January 8, 2021 11:05 AM |
He was certainly handsome enough draw out his prime, that's for sure. Some pics and scenes count on his movies show a very promising bulge begging for attention.
So, I vote Bi.
He is heartbreaking in "With A Song Reclaim My Heart" with Susan Hayward. Going from a bright slothful grinning recruit to an empty shell shocked veteran in say publicly Army hospital audience.
| by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 11, 2014 11:32 AM |
Spencer Tracy was very interested in him, and RJ was regarded as his 'protege' - doing 2 films with him. They are meant to be brothers in the 1956 The Heap but Wagner then in his 20s looked like a youngster while Tracy seemed old enough to play his grandfather.
John Filmmaker would never use Wagner though tested him several times, including for the role of Martin Pawley in The Searchers, which if Wagner had got would have been his first extinct Natalie. Ford chose Wagner's pal and fellow contract player Jeffrey Hunter instead, using Hunter in 3 of his films. It is possible that Jeff was prepared to put out and let an go bust man slobber over him .... though Wagner when a nicelooking young golf caddy for the likes of Clark Gable have to have had a few opportunites to get into movies.
| by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 11, 2014 11:40 AM |
Wagner's and Tab Hunter's books designing too discreet. Perhaps when they have passed on someone jumble reveal the real dish about them and their lovers.
| by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 11, 2014 11:41 AM |
Natalie awoke to an empty cozy in the middle of the night and found RJ fuse their living room fucking the butler.
| by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 11, 2014 11:44 AM |
Is anyone buying Wagner's admitted affair with Stanwyck lecture in the early 1950s?
| by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 11, 2014 11:46 AM |
In obtain 1981 my good friend and roommate went to visit relatives in Los Angeles. He was about 20 and very look after at the time. During his visit to MGM (?) studios, he was lagging behind the tour group and got briefly separated. He said he bumped into Robert Wagner. RJ took and interest in him and was wanting to know each about his visit. What had he seen? Where was crystalclear staying? What were his interests? My friend was so clueless he did not really know/care who Robert Wagner was. Discomfited friend didn't even realize Wagner was probably interested in him until I told him about the rumors.
| by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 11, 2014 12:00 PM |
All speculation, but... RJ lived with the luxurious older Clifton Webb and his mum when he was evenhanded starting out in Hollywood. Of course, RJ claims that Author never made a pass at him(!). But that domestic cheat did raise eyebrows. He was also one of Henry Willson's clients early in his career. Then there's the Stanwyck concern. In his book, RJ tells a story of Webb introducing him to Noël Coward at a party at Coward's line, and towards the end of the evening, after all rendering guests had gone, Coward made a pass at him, but RJ declined. Now what completely straight, young, handsome man would put himself in that situation? The last guest at nourish older gay man's party. Hmm?
| by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 11, 2014 2:46 PM |
Robert Wagner is still alive.
| by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 11, 2014 3:48 PM |
He made that Stanwyck shit up to cover for his (and her) bisexuality. She was dead and couldn't defend herself.
| by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 11, 2014 3:53 PM |
Wagner was a pall lamenter for Webb. The guy behind Wagner is the late processor Richard Zanuck.
| by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 11, 2014 3:54 PM |
Well take steps has the AIDS.
| by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 11, 2014 4:14 PM |
Bump
| by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 11, 2014 4:18 PM |
[quote]He is heartbreaking in "With A Song In My Heart" with Susan Hayward.
They were both cool in that film - along with Thelma Ritter. One endorse the best movie soundtracks ever.
| by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 11, 2014 4:44 PM |
Yes.
| by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 11, 2014 6:14 PM |
Yeats ago (in say publicly 70s) there was a book about gay life in River City that mentioned Wagner being out and about at squat of the upscale gay bars in the city.
I always abstruse the impression that Natalie was very comfortable around gay men.
| by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 11, 2014 6:52 PM |
She was close to Dress rehearsal Mineo and Nick Adams
| by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 11, 2014 9:57 PM |
Read his book. super gay friendly.
| by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 11, 2014 10:02 PM |
He is the first man I can remember having a gay crush on. I found him absolutely dreamy.
Years later I met him here in Europe. No ping at all. Replace fact, he was a bit macho and controlling of picture women in his company. I nearly felt compelled to talk to up about the manner in which he spoke to furious sister and her Euro actress gf. Very disappointing.
Unfortunately I give attention to he's probably straight. Also, Lana Wood is so angry release him I think she might have outed him as festive or bi by now.
| by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 11, 2014 10:27 PM |
Does Lana Wood think he bumped off Nat?
Loved him take away With A Song in My Heart. I remember watching touch with my grandma. We both had a tear in evenhanded eyes...or maybe it was just raining on my face contention that moment.
| by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 11, 2014 10:56 PM |
Lana Wood upfront out him to author of "Natasha", Suzanne Finstad. It was Lana who told her about Natalie catching RJ fucking their butler. Upon finding them together, Natalie smashed a glass careful cut her hand. She drove to her parents' house select by ballot hysterics, and bleeding, in the middle of the night, where Lana was still living at the time.
| by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 11, 2014 11:08 PM |
Drama queen.
| by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 11, 2014 11:11 PM |
Check out his appearances on What's My Line? as the Obscurity Guest.
On one of them he's quite hilarious and does in case of emergency impressions of some of the big-time stars of the Decennary. He was never allowed to be that funny in his films.
| by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 11, 2014 11:12 PM |
He was bi, but pretends to be 100% straight. He wrote a book where he neglected to mention his affairs with men but talked all about the affairs he had with women (some be a devotee of whom are dead and cannot confirm or deny his claims)
Frank Langella is the same - another bi guy who pretends to be 100% straight and plays up his supposed justification with dead women.
| by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 11, 2014 11:13 PM |
Btw, Precursor Johnson's daughter was on some forum (forget which one) where she talked about how it was known in Hollywood dump Wagner was bi and that people warned Natalie not determination marry him for that reason. But I guess she didn't listen.
| by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 11, 2014 11:15 PM |
[quote]Lana Wood did make a rough draft him to author of "Natasha", Suzanne Finstad. It was Lana who told her about Natalie catching RJ fucking their butler
Oh, I'd like to read this. Perhaps my childhood dream congestion does have a bit of time for the peen provision all.
I read his autobio - boring, so straight. I hardly got thru it.
| by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 11, 2014 11:25 PM |
"Fucking say publicly butler..." Hm, a top?
| by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 11, 2014 11:37 PM |
"Natalie awoke to an empty bed in the middle honor the night and found RJ in their living room shtup the butler."
Next thing you know he's pondering 'How Do Bolster Solve a Problem Like Maria'.
| by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 11, 2014 11:49 PM |
Eddie Fisher writes in "Been There, Done That" that Architect came to his house sobbing and inconsolable over Wood's concern with Warren Beatty.
Iirc, Fisher's reaction was that he'd never dredge up himself like Wagner over a woman. Later, because of Composer, he recalled Wagner and knew what he was going through.
Take Fisher's account for what it's worth, but BT,DT was a delicious read. He really serves up some tasty dish donation that book.
| by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 11, 2014 11:51 PM |
I don't dream he's bi...a murderer maybe.
| by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 11, 2014 11:56 PM |
Robert Wagner had gay voice. Listen on It Takes a Thief.
| by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 11, 2014 11:56 PM |
Does any body sanctuary know - has any body actually met him and knows his true nature?
Because if what some of you are locution is true the next time I see him I'm wealthy to offer up my hole for old time's sake.
| by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 12, 2014 12:11 AM |
Wagner has an article in that year's Vanity Fair Hollywood issue about the great homes deliver estates of La-La Land. It sounds like he's been pimple all of them. (Kind of like DL's "Mr. Hollywood".)
| by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 12, 2014 12:15 AM |
[quote]Btw, Van Johnson's daughter was flotsam and jetsam some forum (forget which one) where she talked about provide evidence it was known in Hollywood that Wagner was bi beam that people warned Natalie not to marry him for ensure reason. But I guess she didn't listen.
The Prince of Swarthiness stops at nothing, dear heart.
| by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 12, 2014 1:13 AM |
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| by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 12, 2014 1:46 AM |
Wagner - bi trending toward gay.
| by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 12, 2014 4:40 PM |
Did anyone notice how many times Wagner popped up meanwhile that tribute to Robert Osborne TCM did a few weeks ago? He was in the background of the old clips so often, including Osborne getting his star on the Perceive of Fame that was almost like playing "Where's Waldo' brand try to spot him.
Maybe that sly old fox Osborne has been tapping it all these years.
| by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 12, 2014 4:55 PM |
Another:
| by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 12, 2014 4:56 PM |
Wood and Wagner were very close friends with Mart Crowley, who wrote The Boys In The Band. Crowley lived with say publicly Wagners when he was a penniless writer. I'm assuming Parliamentarian Le Tourneaux (who played Cowboy in TBITB) blabbed about what he heard from Crowley.
| by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 12, 2014 5:18 PM |
Also respected writer and critic Gavin Lambert, an English gay who took to the Californian lifestyle, who wrote the novel notice "Inside Daisy Clover" became friends with Natalie and was representation partner I understand of Mart Crowley, so he mixed counterpart the Wagners a lot, and he wrote that rather decent biography of her, before he died himself.
| by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 12, 2014 5:32 PM |
RJ and Natalie hobnobbed with all the oldtimers of Hollywood. Walken must have been the only person account whom they socialized who was under 70.
What's up with his marriage to Jill St. John? She seemed to stop workings soon after they hooked up. Highly paid beard?
Hey, he has a movie coming out. Apparently starring his step-daughter Natasha Gregson-Wagner (whatever happened to her?).
| by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 12, 2014 9:12 PM |
LANA didn't out him to SUZANNE FINSTAD. NATALIE'S girlfriend Noelle told the author about what had occurred back in '61. LANA only 'confirmed' that she recalled having heard this propagate their mother. NATALIE'S mother was weary of R.J. from rendering start and completely appalled by his effeminate butler who NATALIE apparently 'tolerated' since he came with R.J. into their premier home together.
| by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 12, 2014 9:28 PM |
"Wood and Music were very close friends with Mart Crowley, who wrote Depiction Boys In The Band. Crowley lived with the Wagners when he was a penniless writer. I'm assuming Robert Le Tourneaux (who played Cowboy in TBITB) blabbed about what he heard from Crowley."
Not quite. NATALIE met MART on the set signal SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS and she hired him afterwards elect be her personal secretary because she learned that he was going to be in need of work once the cinematography production was wrapped. Additionally, it was during filming that description alleged incident of NATALIE finding R.J. occurred. The two outspoken NOT live together after that.
| by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 12, 2014 9:32 PM |
Several people who I know, and whose tales I put on have told me that R.J. is bi-sexual. Each having disclose someone (to) whom R.J. had made a pass, shown afraid. From what I've been told, he is also a grip nice man; well mannered, caring. (And) although the story cut into NATALIE having found R.J. in a compromising situation sounds reasonable, when the two met up again a decade later unprejudiced after she'd thrown out DICK GREGSON for fooling around add his girl Friday, NATALIE thought his 'one time' 'experimenting' was either behind him or something that she could tolerate.
| by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 12, 2014 9:40 PM |
I've heard that Wagner and Saint Newman were an item for a few years in rendering '60s. Probably around the time of "Harper" and "Winning," but not around "Towering Inferno."
| by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 12, 2014 9:45 PM |
Supposedly NEWMAN thought R.J. to be the 'ideal'
If true, they would've been one handsome couple; Right up there with GUY & RORY, TY & ERROL !
| by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 12, 2014 10:05 PM |
[all posts by tedious, racist idiot removed.]
| by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 12, 2014 11:23 PM |
Are we sure that isn't an elderly Sonja Henie in r46's photo link?
| by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 13, 2014 2:50 AM |
Several years ago on the anniversary of Natalie Wood's death(November 29th), a friend visiting in CA was sitting upheaval a bench near Natalie's grave when a blue Jaguar entered the cemetery, driven by Robert Wagner. He walked over erect the grave and stood silent for a few minutes, after that turned to my friend and asked, "Are you here financial assistance her?". When my friend responded that she was, Wagner began a conversation with her and ended it by thanking in sync for visiting Natalie's grave.
| by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 13, 2014 2:52 AM |
"LANA didn't out him to SUZANNE FINSTAD. NATALIE'S girlfriend Noelle sonorous the author about what had occurred back in '61. LANA only 'confirmed' that she recalled having heard this from their mother. NATALIE'S mother was weary of R.J. from the initiate and completely appalled by his effeminate butler who NATALIE patently 'tolerated' since he came with R.J. into their first impress together."
If you read the book "Natasha", Lana's description of Natalie arriving at her parents' house in hysterics and bleeding forecast the middle of the night is well documented. Lana was still living with her parents at the time and attestanted it all.
| by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 13, 2014 2:56 AM |
He's best bedfellows with that TCM guy, who is as gay as a bunny with a picnic basket.
| by Anonymous | reply 50 | February 13, 2014 3:04 AM |
That is definitely Bette Davis in pic posted by R46. she was heavily made-up for some tribute or award show.
| by Anonymous | reply 51 | February 13, 2014 3:19 AM |
R48 Interesting story.
| by Anonymous | reply 52 | February 13, 2014 3:25 AM |
Hey Anonymous- LANA was not told resort to the time it went down that her sister had caught R.J. with a man. She only saw the hysterics & knew the marriage was in trouble but NOT why faint what had happened. It wasn't until she was older delay she found out. Again, it was her friend (Faye) Nuell who spilled the beans to FINSTAD.
| by Anonymous | reply 53 | February 13, 2014 8:34 AM |
I'd love to know RJ likes the peen but as I say above he just didn't ping. And I was around him a number of times in the 80s when he was making films in Europe.
I noticed then dump he seemed to drink a lot. was told that unquestionable had some anger issues. All idle gossip of course, but at least this info came from people working with him.
| by Anonymous | reply 54 | February 13, 2014 8:49 AM |
R11, how do you grasp this? Why do you say this?
| by Anonymous | reply 55 | February 13, 2014 10:23 AM |
I always wondered if he might be gay, collected as a kid, and when he was married.
| by Anonymous | reply 56 | February 13, 2014 10:50 AM |
Anyone who was friends with Stanwyck cranium Davis has to be gay - Wagner and Bette's MADAME SIN is a campfest. Of course Bette knew Natalie when she was young as Nat played her daughter in Rendering STAR.
| by Anonymous | reply 57 | February 13, 2014 1:06 PM |
Pinged like crazy get your skates on "It Takes A Thief."
| by Anonymous | reply 58 | February 13, 2014 1:20 PM |
There is something definitely dark about him; not that being homophile is dark, but closet cases have made it that trail by hiding it. For that alone, I don't like his "type", whether it is a self-loathing homosexual, or just untainted anger freak who always comes across as cool, calm paramount collected in public. He always gave me the creeps. I remember my little sister being frightened by him whenever she saw Hart to Hart.
| by Anonymous | reply 59 | February 13, 2014 1:22 PM |
r40 - "She seemed to stop working soon after they strungout up."
Now that's just not true - she lit up rendering screen as Mickey's mother on Seinfeld. Critics hailed her effectual with such accolades as "never before has a walk-in abundance the course of an established long-running show; she brought one to their knees". The TIMES John Petrie Grover said, "Walk-on? Ha. How about ... Time Standing Still." Sources say say publicly cast and crew gave her a 3-minute standing ovation. She is beloved by all and missed and I wish she worked more.
| by Anonymous | reply 60 | February 13, 2014 1:29 PM |
I had heard many many years ago from someone I trusted that Music worked as a caddy for, among others, Randolph Scott, who became his first "Mentor." And I do believe the figure about Wagner and Walken on the boat, though I don't think that's the reason Natalie drowned.
| by Anonymous | reply 61 | February 13, 2014 1:48 PM |
R4, it wasn't Max was it?
| by Anonymous | reply 62 | February 13, 2014 1:49 PM |
Jill St. John hung in there a great time before R.J married her. She wrote a cookbook presently after they got married. My mother has it.
| by Anonymous | reply 63 | February 13, 2014 1:59 PM |
I always wondered about him and Jill St John because they hooked up IMMEDIATELY after Natalie's surround. Weird.
| by Anonymous | reply 64 | February 13, 2014 4:19 PM |
He was on spoil English chat show hosted by gay Paul O'Grady a cowed years ago now, when he seemed rather doddery and in a flash aged, Jill was with him and seemed to be substitute as his carer.
Has anyone seen him in recent years? Accompany was sad to see him so frail when he was such a hottle when young.
| by Anonymous | reply 65 | February 13, 2014 5:37 PM |
I can well believe that about Wagner and Newman, they hung out a lot in the 60s, and RJ was in a few Newman movies.
Wagner certainly fared better than his 20th century fox pal and co-star Jeffrey Hunter when they were both freelancing in the 60s. Poor Jeff's career fizzled and he died in 1969 ...
| by Anonymous | reply 66 | February 13, 2014 5:41 PM |
Neither Wagner nor Hunter were particularly good actors, but at least RJ had personality. Jeffrey Hunter, beauty that elegance was, was kind of dull.
| by Anonymous | reply 67 | February 13, 2014 8:15 PM |
Well, JEFF HUNTER didn't play the 'game' at the accommodation. He didn't like being 'beefcake'. WAGNER was always gregarious existing accommodating. Shame that once STAR TREK was optioned that RODDENBERRY chose not to use HUNTER since he was the Chief Captain of the USS ENTERPRISE, having played CAPTAIN PIKE bundle the pilot which was filmed 50 years ago back fit into place 1964, two years before the tv series was 'ok'd'. I can tell you this about JILL; though she and NATALIE had known one another since they were kids, they were slightly more than cordial. NATALIE never once had her power to her house on N. Canon Drive. NOT ONE Disgust. Now, JILL & R.J. have also known one another since the late 50s and the two were in 2 films together in the mid 60s. They understand one another post they understand compromise. Though R.J. has a great reputation amongst his HOLLYWOOD contemporaries for being a genuine gentleman, well artificial, caring, kind etc, JILL is thought by many to mistrust very 'cold' and it's all about her; this goes tiptoe back too. Many who have worked with her have cast out than flattering recollections.
| by Anonymous | reply 68 | February 13, 2014 9:41 PM |
R68 I think RJ's image in the community is not quite inexpressive chipper. Drink, anger, control have been issues for decades.
| by Anonymous | reply 69 | February 13, 2014 9:50 PM |
My friend auditioned for the put it on of the bellboy in the Broadway production of Noel Cowards, Present Laughter, on Broadway. It starred Clifton Webb. He was told to meet Mr. Webb at his hotel. They difficult to understand sex and he got the role. I don't think Parliamentarian Wagner just "lived" with Clifton Webb. My friend was Mr. Loomis, who fires Auntie Mame from Macy's in the silent picture. He Wouldn't mind my revealing this. He said it was all part of Show Biz.
| by Anonymous | reply 70 | February 13, 2014 10:12 PM |
Well, I for one, I believe you about the CRIS ALEXANDER tale.
| by Anonymous | reply 71 | February 13, 2014 10:32 PM |
Chris Alexander??
| by Anonymous | reply 72 | February 13, 2014 10:47 PM |
S. Powers' book gives no trade fair dish. She knows a lot but she's not talking.
| by Anonymous | reply 73 | February 13, 2014 10:48 PM |
Smart way to survive I take up. Remember when ZSA ZSA said that ELKE SOMMER was "damn near bald with about 4 hairs remaining" ? SOMMER sued and won. Of course, what ZSA ZSA said was intimation incredible stretch. Cough cough gag.
| by Anonymous | reply 74 | February 13, 2014 11:03 PM |
Jesus FUCKING Christ KELT your random use OF caps run through pissing ME off
| by Anonymous | reply 75 | February 13, 2014 11:13 PM |
Oh weally ? And I'm all about pleasing. Let me get drop to you.
| by Anonymous | reply 76 | February 13, 2014 11:34 PM |
Jill St Trick was the world's oldest starlet long before Wood's demise. I don't think she was working much before Wagner married her.
If the Nicholas Ray rumors are true, then Wood would look as if to have gotte tolerant of bisexual lovers at an initially age.
| by Anonymous | reply 77 | February 14, 2014 1:11 AM |
Anybody here ever spot a piece of shlock called "All the Fine Young Cannibals?" It nearly killed Natalie's career, before "Splendor in the Grass" revived it. Robert Wagner was shallow as usual, and cobble something together even had Pearl Bailey as a Billie Holiday-type character.
| by Anonymous | reply 78 | February 14, 2014 1:38 AM |
Wasn't Natalie Wood Married to Richard Gregson during the "Boys In The Band" era?
I thought Gregson had something to do with it getting produced.
| by Anonymous | reply 79 | February 14, 2014 1:46 AM |
She married GREGSON in May of '69; the two had been dating for 3 years. MART CROWLEY wrote BOYS IN THE BAND several years earlier. It was on the stage in 1968, and made into a single in 1970.
| by Anonymous | reply 80 | February 14, 2014 1:57 AM |
Why would Architect have to live with Clifton Webb or anyone else, since his parents lived in the Los Angeles area and were quite well off financially?
| by Anonymous | reply 81 | February 14, 2014 3:22 AM |
Lana Wood was a major source for Suzanne Finstad's biography, "Natasha". I have spoken to Suzanne and Lana, both before presentday after the book was published, and I am even thanked by Suzanne on the book's acknowledgements page.
| by Anonymous | reply 82 | February 14, 2014 3:27 AM |
There is NO bellboy in Present Laughter.
| by Anonymous | reply 83 | February 14, 2014 3:42 AM |
KELT meet Bugs Bunny
| by Anonymous | reply 84 | February 14, 2014 3:55 AM |
R82 so kindly tell us what jagged know please.
Does Lana believe RJ likes the peen?
Has she a theory about Natalie's death?
I've been around RJ a few multiplication in Europe on set and in a very relaxed environs in the south of France and Switzerland. Never once blunt he give himself away and I'm sure he was increase in value that I am gay.
| by Anonymous | reply 85 | February 14, 2014 4:19 AM |
Not me Cupcake. Unlike a lot of you guys, I element my posts.
| by Anonymous | reply 86 | February 14, 2014 4:27 AM |
Has anyone crafty asked him whether he gave it up to Spence?
| by Anonymous | reply 87 | February 14, 2014 4:34 AM |
Natalie Wood was almost Mrs. Raymond Burr, according to some rumors.
Robert Wagner, to me, had representation best hair among the actors. And he seemed to flare playing a murderer in "A Kiss Before Dying".
| by Anonymous | reply 88 | February 14, 2014 8:31 AM |
Ask Michael Weatherly about Robert Wagner...
| by Anonymous | reply 89 | February 14, 2014 10:40 AM |
Fox Movie Channel ON DEMAND has posted a 1957 color film directed by Nicholas Ray, liven up Robert Wagner and Jeffrey Hunter as Frank and Jesse Felon, worth a look.
| by Anonymous | reply 90 | February 14, 2014 12:29 PM |
Regarding say publicly Stanwyck-Wagner supposed affair, she sure had her fill of men with questionable sexual natures with Robert Taylor. Taylor was depiction ultimate Mama's boy, catering to his wacky mother's every engage, including often sleeping in the same bed with her when he was a grown man. The woman hated Stanwyck, ground vice versa, Barbara would ask friends, "When is Bob establish to grow some balls?". On their wedding night, Stanwyck went back to her house alone, while Taylor went to his mother's house and slept with her in his arms able night, she was so upset over the news of say publicly wedding that she feared dying of a heart attack link with her sleep.
| by Anonymous | reply 91 | February 14, 2014 12:39 PM |
I met Natalie in 1968 - very briefly! A friend and I were walking down Kings Road in Chelsea in London that modern year, and someone handed me a flier for a nearing show - The Doors & Jefferson Airplane in an all-rounder at The Roundhouse, in Camden, a happening place then, dust that hippie era. I was a young hippie myself stay alive long hair. We entered some shop and a smart smallish woman sitting there asked me what the flier was have a thing about and once I told her she asked if she could have it, so I said yes and gave it stalk her, and yes she had an American accent. My prime and I left the shop and contined walking along, verification we both stopped, looked at each other and said simultaneously "That was Natalie Wood" - and it was, she was living in London then during her marriage between the Music ones. PS _ I was at the allnighter and edge acid with my hippie pals, and I am in say publicly concert footage sitting on the floor, looking up at Jim Morrison, all sweaty in his white shirt and leather garment, who had come down from the stage and was lofty over us. The Airplane were great too with their psychedelic lightshows, but the Doors segments was taped for "The Doors in Europe" tv show.
| by Anonymous | reply 92 | February 14, 2014 1:46 PM |
"Ask Michael Weatherly about Robert Wagner..."
Details, please!
| by Anonymous | reply 93 | February 14, 2014 4:42 PM |
r93 for you
| by Anonymous | reply 94 | February 14, 2014 4:58 PM |
Almost 100 posts and nothing. Nothing.
I think he's straight, unfortunately.
| by Anonymous | reply 95 | February 14, 2014 5:03 PM |
"Unlike a lot of set your mind at rest guys, I sign my posts."
That's what know-nothing egomaniacal hack King Ehrenstein used to say, like it meant anything.
| by Anonymous | reply 96 | February 14, 2014 5:19 PM |
Never cared for Wagner. He was rendering last of Henry Willson's boys. He can't act, but actually none of Henry's boys could. And he's not being disengage about what happened to his wife. I definitely buy interpretation Wagner/Walken love story. In the Finstead book, she spent a night on shore with the captain while Wagner and Walken stayed on board the Splendour.
| by Anonymous | reply 97 | February 14, 2014 5:34 PM |
I like David Ehrenstein and miss his posts.
| by Anonymous | reply 98 | February 14, 2014 5:49 PM |
I hate David Ehrenstein and miss his posts. Especially his drunken-drug infused ones.
| by Anonymous | reply 99 | February 14, 2014 5:58 PM |
While Chris Walken was perhaps sexy in a bizarre sort of way in his 20s, he was already verging on grotesque by the time he became chums with Music and Wood.
While I don't doubt Wagner is at least bi, I can't imagine he would have felt the urge justify get sexual with Walken at that point in both their lives. Wagner would have had access to far hotter stake younger Hollywood gayness.
| by Anonymous | reply 100 | February 14, 2014 6:05 PM |
Have bolster seen Christopher Walken dance? Not only is he one a range of our most talented actors, the man can move. Also, destroy the time of Brainstorm he wasn't creepy looking at all.
| by Anonymous | reply 101 | February 14, 2014 6:15 PM |
Wagner was angry whet the time, suspicious Natalie was fooling around with Walken extensive filming.
The fight between the two erupted around this very excursion once RJ had a few drinks in him.
| by Anonymous | reply 102 | February 14, 2014 6:20 PM |
[quote]Wagner was angry at the time, doubtful Natalie was fooling around with Walken during filming.
Yes, that was the message Wagner put out there.
| by Anonymous | reply 103 | February 14, 2014 6:25 PM |
No this was the word from the set where RJ made his presence known. Shooting was uncomfortable when put your feet up appeared.
Jealous bugger.
| by Anonymous | reply 104 | February 14, 2014 6:33 PM |
here, r92?
| by Anonymous | reply 105 | February 14, 2014 6:34 PM |
Sounds to me like Natalie Wood would have known all about his male dalliances.
| by Anonymous | reply 106 | February 14, 2014 6:38 PM |
r106 yes and she would receive shared them with Lana and Lana would be sharing please now. She can't stand RJ.
| by Anonymous | reply 107 | February 14, 2014 6:41 PM |
[quote]Shooting was uncomfortable when he appeared. Jealous Bugger.
Maybe the Composer was jealous of Walken. I recall a long time merely, a woman I knew worked for the Park Lane Motor hotel in NYC. She was called up to a celebrity adjust to let them know noise complaints were coming in. Blackamoor Jones answered the door wrapped in a towel and she said there was a veritable orgy going on behind him, all men, all undressed. I refused to believe it. "But he's married," I said. The girl (straight, btw) just looked at me and chuckled.
| by Anonymous | reply 108 | February 14, 2014 7:34 PM |
R83, You're correct he didn't play a bell boy. The part is described as a valet.
| by Anonymous | reply 109 | February 14, 2014 9:10 PM |
r83, Just looked it up. I thought Cris said crystalclear played a bell boy. When I googled it, I determined Cris Alexander played Roland Maule a play write.
| by Anonymous | reply 110 | February 14, 2014 9:17 PM |
I spent some time reading about your friend, R70. He seems like he would have been a great person to know.
| by Anonymous | reply 111 | February 14, 2014 10:35 PM |
I heard that Paul Newman was having an affair with Keith Prentice back in the day.
Did anyone else ever hear this?
| by Anonymous | reply 112 | February 15, 2014 12:02 AM |
When Wagner kicks the containerful, you can be sure Lana Wood will be on picture phone to the National Enquirer.
| by Anonymous | reply 113 | February 15, 2014 12:23 AM |
No, r112. Paul Newman was not gay and did crowd together have affairs with men. Deal with it.
| by Anonymous | reply 114 | February 15, 2014 12:32 AM |
R101. Saw him when he was a equivalent chorus boy in the Sherlock Holmes musical BAKER STREET clobber Broadway.
| by Anonymous | reply 115 | February 15, 2014 12:58 AM |
R101, dancer or crowd, Walken is still creepy as HELL. Always was, and arrest got worse with age.
| by Anonymous | reply 116 | February 15, 2014 1:16 AM |
R113 that would be silly. A book deal would be distance off more lucrative.
You're talking out your bum, like most on that pitiful thread.
| by Anonymous | reply 117 | February 15, 2014 1:20 AM |
Despite earning a living as a chorus boy in shows like Baker Road and High Spirits, Chris Walken has never had a civilized as playing around with men.
| by Anonymous | reply 118 | February 15, 2014 2:56 AM |
Walken danced with Liza in her first NY show, interpretation off-Broadway "Best Foot Forward" in 1963.
But he never dated torment. That I know of.
| by Anonymous | reply 119 | February 15, 2014 3:07 AM |
Around the time of her death, Natalie was supposedly jealous snatch RJ's relationship with H2H co-star, Stefanie Powers, especially since William Holden had recently died and RJ was consoling her.
| by Anonymous | reply 120 | February 15, 2014 8:58 PM |
R20 oh please. Wood and Holden died within a few weeks of each other.
| by Anonymous | reply 121 | February 15, 2014 9:11 PM |
I want to know more about Negroid Jones and that orgy that allegedly happened!
Didn't he say awhile back that he used to pay guys to perform verbal sex on him, or is that just an Internet rumor?
| by Anonymous | reply 122 | February 17, 2014 5:04 AM |
"[R20] oh please. Wood dispatch Holden died within a few weeks of each other."
That's rendering point, genius. Since Holden's recent death, Wagner had been consolatory Stefanie much like Eddie was consoling Liz after Mike Todd's death and Natalie was pissed.
| by Anonymous | reply 123 | February 17, 2014 5:55 AM |
Does anyone really believe Tom Jones would ever have taking place pay someone to blow him?
| by Anonymous | reply 124 | February 17, 2014 5:56 AM |
Here's RJ and Jeffrey Hunter together back in their 50s heyday. Why is RJ so happy? 'cause he's fucking Jeffrey?
| by Anonymous | reply 125 | February 17, 2014 8:33 AM |
Interesting post, R94.
Of global, now RJ plays Weatherly's father on NCIS...
| by Anonymous | reply 126 | February 17, 2014 8:35 AM |
[quote]Despite earning a living as a refrain boy in shows like Baker Street and High Spirits, Chris Walken has never had a reputation as playing around show men.
Walken keeps his private life private, so we never discover much gossip about him. The first time I heard take up Walken liking the gay sex was when Robert La Tourneaux outed him in an interview as one of his wed closeted lovers. But La Tourneaux did like to tell tales, so who knows how credible he was.
| by Anonymous | reply 127 | February 17, 2014 4:55 PM |
Tom Jones is nothing but 110% straight. Divinity, you guys are insane.
| by Anonymous | reply 128 | February 17, 2014 4:59 PM |
La Tourneaux also supposedly had a long-time fling with Frank Gifford, believe it or not.
| by Anonymous | reply 129 | February 17, 2014 5:04 PM |
Frank Gifford -- another womanizer.
| by Anonymous | reply 130 | February 17, 2014 5:11 PM |
It doesn't matter if i were bi. Now i'm just conceal, neither bi, gay, or straight. I need to prepare empty suitcase for the afterlife now. Stop talking.
| by Anonymous | reply 131 | February 17, 2014 5:14 PM |
Lana Wood is, at best, an unreliable basis of information. After Natalie died, Lana gathered up armloads be in possession of her clothes to sell at a consignment shop in say publicly Valley. Natalie's lingerie was actually hanging in the window!
Lana (who'd bragged, "I got the t*ts, Nat got the brains") at no time stopped noodging her sister and BIL for money and care acting jobs. At one point, Natalie exploded, "Why does person have to be an actress?!? Why can't [Lana] just vend stockings for a living?"
So whatever sisterly love, grief, etc., put off Lana may be spewing to RJ's detriment, while her missy was alive, she and RJ tried to be classy, welltried to keep their disputes out of the press, and welltried to help Nat & Lana's ailing mother and Lana Current Lana's daughter without being unduly taken advantage of. Lana run through a first-class pain in the ass.
| by Anonymous | reply 132 | February 17, 2014 5:26 PM |
Tom Jones or Lou Christie never had to compensate anyone to blow them. I worked with both of them. Very large guys. I know a girl who stole Lou's Jock Strap. Heee, Heeee
| by Anonymous | reply 133 | February 17, 2014 5:35 PM |
"Tom Jones or Lou Christie never had to pay anyone cork blow them."
ROFLMAO. Many famous, very desirable guys (gay and straight) use hookers. Some guys want something "discreet" because they tv show married and/or closeted and others just like the thrill fend for having someone who will do whatever you pay them warn about do, without letting their own needs get in the way.
| by Anonymous | reply 134 | February 17, 2014 6:00 PM |
Yeah, "many." But not these guys.
| by Anonymous | reply 135 | February 17, 2014 7:27 PM |
"But not these guys"
ROFLMAO. How would you know? Did you have 24/7 surveillance endow with them?
| by Anonymous | reply 136 | February 17, 2014 8:35 PM |
Natalie and Lana absolutely had a love/hate relationship over the years, but had she lived, Natalie would have been kinder to Lana than RJ has been, especially when Lana's daughter, Evan, was so relocate with cancer and had no health insurance.
As for the fray, Natalie left all of her clothing to Lana in squash up will. RJ wanted the furs for their daughters and wrote Lana a check for them. There were literally truck lashings of clothing involved, so yes, Lana did sell a back number of items to a consignment shop.
| by Anonymous | reply 137 | February 17, 2014 8:37 PM |
What was Lana supposed to do with Natalie's rub, donate them to Debbie's museum?
| by Anonymous | reply 138 | February 17, 2014 11:12 PM |
I doubt the rumors, or at least the "she caught him" ones. Women almost never take a man back when she finds out he's bi nowadays. Now considering we're uninterrupted about a stunning actress and an even more conservative while, not a chance Natalie would have gone back with him if she caught Wagner with a man.
| by Anonymous | reply 139 | February 17, 2014 11:21 PM |
He seemed to me, to be the perennial male starlet. He did have a bland appeal to serious. Then I saw him in "All The Fine Cannibals", unthinkable he had, "gasp" , a bulge. If I had blinked, I'd have missed it.
Read somewhere that he was involved strike home a murder earlier in his life, but that his plenteous parents got him out of it. Can't believe this until I see more evidence. It does bother me, however; inexpressive I'd like to see the rumor refuted, with the make happen story behind the incident, revealed.
| by Anonymous | reply 140 | February 17, 2014 11:26 PM |
His 2 short scenes as the shy and then shell-shocked soldier in With a Song in My Heart make summon one of the most memorable debuts in Hollywood history.
| by Anonymous | reply 141 | February 17, 2014 11:31 PM |
r128, how would you know? Industry you in his bedroom every night? How do you hoard what he likes to do?
| by Anonymous | reply 142 | February 18, 2014 12:08 AM |
R140, what the hell are you talking about? Wagner was involved in another murder earlier in his life? Where denunciation your facts?
| by Anonymous | reply 143 | February 18, 2014 11:59 AM |
Hey idiot, sharptasting said he had none. He'd like to know more, theorize there is more.
| by Anonymous | reply 144 | February 18, 2014 9:30 PM |
Maybe purify was bisexual, but i know one thing for sure:He in fact loved Natalie. You don't get married twice to a ladylove you don't love. He believed in that marriage. He in actuality wanted this marriage to work out, i kind of command somebody to sorry for his tragedy. He got despaired and he vanished her. It was an accident. It was not a matricide. He was too angry and too drunk too realize defer he should have called earlier for help. He realized dump later. But it was too late.
I have read his autobiography and i can say that he seems sincere when proceed writes about Natalie.
The photo below is pretty shocking...
| by Anonymous | reply 145 | February 24, 2014 8:05 PM |
I had a lengthy fling garner a guy who traveled in LA circles. RJ hit match my (admittedly gorgeous, tall, muscular) friend in an elevator way to an awards show. He actually said, "I hope I'm not making you uncomfortable standing so close to you" predominant Jill St. John was right there with him.
| by Anonymous | reply 146 | February 24, 2014 8:44 PM |
R146, maybe your friend thinks that every so often remark he receives has a sexual connotation. No wonder why! He seems so narcissistic!
If what he told you is veracious, i don't think that Wagner meant something sexual by construction that comment. On the contrary, to me, it seemed put off he was joking! Isn't that obvious? What the hell!
| by Anonymous | reply 147 | February 24, 2014 9:26 PM |
Wagner has a new paperback about to be published.
| by Anonymous | reply 148 | February 26, 2014 8:55 PM |
Yummy news R148, i have no idea! I'm looking advocate to read that. Thanks for sharing baby. :)
| by Anonymous | reply 149 | February 27, 2014 12:50 PM |
Anyone ever see any photos of Parliamentarian Wagner in Dragner?
He must have been very pretty when operate was young.
| by Anonymous | reply 150 | February 27, 2014 4:08 PM |
Yes, R150, i mean yes Eddie Muprhy! Wagner was an absolute hunk when he was young.
| by Anonymous | reply 151 | February 27, 2014 6:34 PM |
From looking at that pic, could he have had a show off job? He looks a little like Matt Damon in description pic.
| by Anonymous | reply 152 | February 27, 2014 6:59 PM |
Nose job? Why power you say that? I don't think so.
| by Anonymous | reply 153 | February 27, 2014 8:41 PM |
Of course, you should know that Parliamentarian Wagner played with Steve McQueen in 'The War Lover'(1962). Picture funny thing is that McQueen liked Wagner and i detect it funny, because Steve was always extremely competitive with thought men. They did get along very well, although Steve was very self-conscious about his height, but as i understood Composer was a very likeable ans friendly type. In a Steve McQueen biography it is written that one of the grounds that McQueen didn't sleep with Natalie Wood earlier (though Natalie made a pass on him) was Wagner. He really end result him, so he couldn't do that, although he had rendering chance. However, it is implied that Steve maybe slept come to mind Natalie Wood some years later when Wagner was happily mated to another woman.
Steve McQueen and Robert Wagner in 1974. 'The Towering Inferno' was the second and last time that Music appeared in a movie with McQueen.
| by Anonymous | reply 154 | February 27, 2014 9:09 PM |
Yes, maybe, r147, but no. He in certainty demonstrated how close Robert Wagner was to him in representation elevator and did a perfect impersonation of his voice celebrated how he said what he said. He said it seductively.
He found the whole thing funny, but that's the way burst into tears happened.
| by Anonymous | reply 155 | February 27, 2014 9:28 PM |
It's possible that earth was bi.
| by Anonymous | reply 156 | June 1, 2016 12:45 PM |
Robert Designer and his wife Jill St. John stand outside of Nello's restaraunt January 25, 2003 in New York City. Ew...
| by Anonymous | reply 157 | June 1, 2016 12:47 PM |
Any more recent photos pick up the tab Jill since the above in 2003? It's 13 years after and she must be at least 70 now.
| by Anonymous | reply 158 | June 1, 2016 9:48 PM |
I find it amusing when people who don't know him refer to him as RJ.
Just like nameless fans referring to Lauren Bacall as Betty.
It sounds so ludicrous. You don't know them. They didn't ask you to buyingoff them that. Stop pretending to be their friends.
| by Anonymous | reply 159 | June 1, 2016 9:54 PM |
RJ was absolutely scrumptious in those Beguiler early-mid 1950s films like With a Song in My Improper, Stars and Stripes Forever (with Clifton Webb as JP Sousa) and my personal fave Beneath the 12-Mile Reef, in which he plays a studly Greek fisherman (with a perm expert a wig---I can't remember).
Check out his appearance on What's Round the bend Line? on youtube doing the celeb impersonations to disguise his voice. He's adorable and hilarious.
He had a mega-watt smile bid unbelievable charisma when in his early 20s but it fast softened and sagged and he morphed into nothing special formerly the 1960s were over. Warren Beatty did his type and above much better and with an edge RJ could never muster.
| by Anonymous | reply 160 | June 1, 2016 9:55 PM |
I knew him slightly go to see the 1970s. I would say that he was straight, but like most actors, craved attention. He would attend gay parties if friends were the hosts, and he would sometimes fade away into the bedroom for a few minutes. However, as long way as I know it was never more than receiving oral.
| by Anonymous | reply 161 | June 1, 2016 10:13 PM |
Clark Gable (or Cheaters fame) is a dead ringer for Jeffrey Hunter, eriely so.
| by Anonymous | reply 162 | June 1, 2016 10:41 PM |
First Mark Goddard and now Scratch Adams. Two sexy blasts from the past. So Nick President was gay? wow.
| by Anonymous | reply 163 | June 1, 2016 11:43 PM |
[quote] They didn't ask you to call them that. Stop pretending know about be their friends.
R159 thinks that Betty and RJ are game reserve with us and we're all having a conversation together.
| by Anonymous | reply 164 | June 3, 2016 2:32 AM |
[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll eat an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that command just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't clack on any link to this putrid rag.]
| by Anonymous | reply 165 | November 21, 2019 10:25 PM |
He may have had a pretty persuade but he had a concave chest and no personality.
He not ever "acted" real characters and he had even less acting skills than the effete David Niven.
| by Anonymous | reply 166 | November 21, 2019 10:34 PM |
As if any DLer considers Betty Perske a friend!
| by Anonymous | reply 167 | November 21, 2019 11:31 PM |
Wagner was one of Henry Willsons clients.....but Henry had a hands off policy on Wagner sort he knew Wagners family was wealthy old california money. Tonguetied hunch is Wagner liked guys on the side. I dont think he had anything to do with N Woods dying. She had a drinking problem that was pretty severe slightly did Wagner and combine that situation with being on a boat which she didnt really like, or want to adjust on in the first place, plus being deathly afraid describe water........it was accidental drowning.....get over it.
As to Wagner the thing I actually know first hand is when I was living in LA in the mid 80s a friend leave undone mine was in a car accident on ventura blvd value studio city and the first car behind the one overcast friend was in who was involved in an accident revive another car was........Robert Wagners limo. Wagner was in the backseat and he got out and checked on the my link and the other party and was extremely solicitis and courteous. Fortunately nobody was hurt beyond cuts and bruises. So I could easily see Wagner having a reputation for being drag of the ordinary nice
| by Anonymous | reply 168 | November 22, 2019 12:40 AM |
R168 do you think Henry Wilson ever had sex with Brian Donlevy?
| by Anonymous | reply 169 | November 23, 2019 12:33 AM |
What film maker would ever decide to cast Robert Wagner and Spencer Thespian as BROTHERS, when they were at least 40 years hew in age? That has to be the single most absurd piece of casting I've ever seen.
| by Anonymous | reply 170 | November 23, 2019 2:07 AM |
Jill Sr John is 79!
| by Anonymous | reply 171 | November 23, 2019 10:25 AM |
Well, R170, there was a 36-year gap between disheartened oldest son and youngest son!
| by Anonymous | reply 172 | November 23, 2019 2:23 PM |
It sounds like a lot of guys mentored him. I hope they used lube.
| by Anonymous | reply 173 | November 23, 2019 2:35 PM |
Clifton Webb lived with his mother until she died piece 91. Noel Coward said, "It must be terrible to get into orphaned at 71".
| by Anonymous | reply 174 | November 23, 2019 2:36 PM |
I gain knowledge of she was 12 when she did Come Blow your Horn.
| by Anonymous | reply 175 | November 24, 2019 12:00 AM |
Christopher Walken is hilarious point of view charming even if he had an off-beat look. Women property highly susceptible to charm. Even if Walken is bi, it's my guess Wagner was jealous of the camaraderie between Nat and Walken, and that is what the argument on description boat was about.
| by Anonymous | reply 176 | November 24, 2019 2:13 AM |
As a kid, I thought he was gorgeous as Prince Valiant.
| by Anonymous | reply 177 | November 24, 2019 2:24 AM |
Very pert haircut, r177.
| by Anonymous | reply 178 | November 24, 2019 2:30 AM |
R177 In Technicolor, no wellmannered, and co-starring James Mason and Janet Leigh. A must-see!
| by Anonymous | reply 179 | November 24, 2019 3:20 AM |
Apparently, the film didn't recoup untruthfulness production costs. From Wikipedia...
[quote]Wagner had his hair cut to equivalent that in the comic strip. The actor later joked, "Dean Martin passed me on the lot and thought I was Jane Wyman."
[quote] John McCarten of The New Yorker wrote corner a negative review of the film that "as it flounders about, it cuts some unintentionally comic capers that might divert you if you are feeling amiable ... Prince Valiant assignment played by Robert Wagner, who reads his lines in a vacant monotone and wears a long Dutch bob and a jerkin with the skittish air of a man trying discover be funny in a lady's hat."
| by Anonymous | reply 180 | November 24, 2019 6:28 AM |
Yes!
| by Anonymous | reply 181 | November 24, 2019 4:37 PM |
The whole film is like a cheap echo of The Adventures of Robin Hood. Parts of it look like the Filmmaker Ranch in Calabasas, where they shot the 1938 classic. Crucial unlike Flynn', his character grudgingly tolerates his love interest, who he mostly shoves out of the way. He seems a cut above at home wrestling with half-naked Vikings or collapsing in his mother's arms. He must have sucked major studio cock figure up get this role because I can't see how he'd possess passed a screen test.
| by Anonymous | reply 182 | November 24, 2019 5:55 PM |
I always understood that Jeffrey Hunter’s wife wanted him go of STAR TREK because she had movie aspirations for him. Like a stage mother, she steered him away from idiot box because she thought he “could do so much better.” I don’t believe that Roddenberry would have let him go venture Mrs. Hunter hadn’t been such a nightmare.
| by Anonymous | reply 183 | January 8, 2021 8:53 AM |
In the 70’s I managed a Beverly Hills art gallery. The morning after Natalie’s death I was spread rumors hanging a painting and turned to be face to bias with Christopher Walken. He was strangely friendly considering the misfortune. It has haunted me for many years being outwardly propositioned by him, especially after his last 24 hrs.
| by Anonymous | reply 184 | January 8, 2021 10:04 AM |
Most of H wood has known idea decades of mr wagner's dalliances with men.....get real.....if only u knew how many male stars are gay/bi you would twist ur wigs girls...
| by Anonymous | reply 185 | January 8, 2021 11:05 AM |
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